Why Donald Trump is (still) a thing

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura) 01/28/2016 at 16:04 • Filed to: None

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Including, “...disatrous, useless, forever wars of the Bush administration...”

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Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/28/2016 at 16:13

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Don’t wanna be That guy but isn’t there a more suitable place to discuss American politics?

Keep oppo cars.

Cheers.

Steve in Manhattan > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/28/2016 at 16:15

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No less than Rod Serling warned the GOP back in 1964 that combining the votes of the rich with those of sociopaths, bigots, and idiots was a recipe for disaster. No one should be surprised that the inmates have taken over the asylum.

And remember - there is no such thing as the Tea Party. It’s just the rump GOP base in funny hats and waving Gadsden flags and AR-51s. It’s that same 21 percent that thought W did a great job.

450X_FTW > Steve in Manhattan 01/28/2016 at 16:24

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AR-15s*

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 01/28/2016 at 16:26

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Donald Trump owns a car.

RallyWrench > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 01/28/2016 at 16:27

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Specifically, can we talk about those two cars? Man, a Zakspeed Capri and 935 together would make a hell of a good topic. What an era in racing.

Cherry_man1 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/28/2016 at 16:27

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He bought his ex wife an NSX

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Steve in Manhattan 01/28/2016 at 16:32

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So are you saying that the analysis resonated with you? I am just happy to see anyone associated with the right admitting that W’s wars were ill conceived and ultimately bad. And the Right was so defensive of the guy when he was busy sounding stupid and mind melding with Karl Rove.

Sam > Cherry_man1 01/28/2016 at 16:32

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I think he had a Diablo for himself, right?

Steve in Manhattan > 450X_FTW 01/28/2016 at 16:39

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A liberal lapsed Jew living in Manhattan got the model of a gun wrong? Who could have predicted??!!!

Thanks for putting me straight.

Steve in Manhattan > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/28/2016 at 16:41

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Very few conservatives will admit that Bush/Cheney was a disaster. Norm Ornstein ... maybe one or two more.

HammerheadFistpunch > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 01/28/2016 at 16:42

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Mercedes Streeter > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/28/2016 at 16:42

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Nah nah, you have that wrong. He owns a guy who drives a car. lol

450X_FTW > Steve in Manhattan 01/28/2016 at 16:43

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haha not to worry. Glad the independent gun owning pro gun control Sanders supporter could help.

Cherry_man1 > Sam 01/28/2016 at 16:46

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Don’t remember

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/28/2016 at 16:47

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Yup.

Mind you, the Dems aren’t really making a great case for themselves either. As I saw somewhere else online, we are best described as a one-party system, the only differences are how they take away our money. Hilary may pretend to be on the left all she wants, but anyone paying any attention knows she’s just as paid for by Corporate Interests as everyone else.

Basically, we’re Fucked. And I had been recently been getting very upset about how popular the GOP still is in the face of what they actually represent; and how crazy everyone has to be to continue to vote against their own best interests to support these clowns. But it hit me last night while I couldn’t sleep, that we actually deserve whatever we get in this election.

Bernie represents the, current, best-case candidate for improving our national economy and moving the country forward. But he won’t win. People do not actually want their lives improved in meaningful, but mundane and boring ways.

The teeming masses want to be pandered to. They actively seek this out. Why else would Fox News, or any of the other hysterics-as-headlines media outlets still be so popular? How else would Trump still keep his lead in the polls?

No, we do not deserve to have a competent, considerate, able, knowledgeable President. We completely deserve Trump, or Cruz (shudders) because the mob demands to be entertained.

Steve in Manhattan > Steve in Manhattan 01/28/2016 at 16:49

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450X_FTW pointed out that the gun is an AR-15, not a 51. A valid correction, but I know something about guns! The Smith & Stetten! The Crock - it’s plastic, right? Like the shoes? And that Luger thing ... or was it a Ruger? Or a Cougar? Hmmm.

Steve in Manhattan > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 01/28/2016 at 16:52

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Here’s the crux of it: if you’re accused of a crime, and in federal court, do you want to be in front of a Reagan/Bush/Bush2 appointed judge, or a Clinton/Obama/Clinton appointed judge? I know my answer. Hillary will continue to fix the federal court system.

Steve in Manhattan > 450X_FTW 01/28/2016 at 16:54

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I am as liberal as they come, and I think gun ownership is just fine. Just find out whether the buyer is insane, and require a permit. That’s all I ask.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Steve in Manhattan 01/28/2016 at 17:05

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I don’t disagree.

But, I would prefer the policies Bernie would try to implement because the “1%” and Corporate America have far too much power and money and Bernie wants to try and balance the country so us plebes have a bigger slice of the pie.

Anthony Miller > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/28/2016 at 17:06

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I leave this comment knowing full well we probably disagree on lots of things, also, as a preface, I am conservative in nature and I lean libertarian and I would argue that the war in Afghanistan, while horrible and eventually a mess fraught with bureaucratic red tape, was initially just(get out your pitchforks).

I read the article and I think it that there is an interesting common thread with all these Republicans claiming that they can explain Donal Trump. (I am no supporter of his BEETEEDUBS) That is, they don’t bother to explain WHAT HE IS. They try to explain why he is there, but the never try to explain what he represents. He doesn’t so much represent the failure of the Republican Party’s platform or “stool” if you will, but rather the complete failure of finding intelligent people to argue it’s benefits and construct coherent policy around those principles.

Donald Trump is a charlatan who will say exactly what he thinks will resonate the most with any given audience. That works because the people who Republicans were so afraid of embracing are really no different than the people Republicans love to make fun of Democrats for. The masses who clamor for a handout or some favor, they’re the same, no matter what political stripe they vote for.

I sincerely wish that the two candidates that I believe are the most sincere in their candidacies weren’t seen as the least probable victors. Good politics are lots of arguments, discussion, compromise, small victories, capitulations, and lots of boring policy. But that’s not what gets you elected and unfortunately both parties have abandoned those things for the easy vote to the detriment of the American political system. There’s a reason Plato considered democracy the worst form of government. Donald Trump is just the physical manifestation of it.

gin-san - shitpost specialist > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/28/2016 at 17:12

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When I take a look at the likely presidential candidates, I can’t help but feel saddened by it.

This whole left vs. right and us vs. them mentality in politics (whether American or not) is poisonous and ineffective. It needs to be left and right (center, really) and how can we work with them? To be honest, going full democrat or full republican isn’t the answer and going far left or far right just makes everything degrade into a nonsensical farce.

Whatever choice the USA ends up making, I hope it works out.

Steve in Manhattan > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 01/28/2016 at 17:12

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Bernie would be great, but it’s not going to happen. I just want a D after the next president’s name. There will be at least 2 Supreme Court seats to fill.

wiffleballtony > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/28/2016 at 17:25

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I vote Republican for two reasons, I want less taxes and I am against gun control. Arguably the Republicans are just as bad at spending anyway. So basically it comes down to the one issue because almost all the others I don’t really care about.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Anthony Miller 01/28/2016 at 17:26

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These have been great comments. Anthony, I did not reach for my pitchfork when I read your comment. I’m a guy who absolutely will not fit with a D or an R after my name. I belong to a conservative religion and own and enjoy firearms, but I am a public school educator who has taken lumps in the the most urban of settings.

I love all of the disruption that Donald Trump is sewing. I loathe Hillary Clinton while I voted twice for Barack Obama. And whatever Donald Trump ever achieves, I will always be grateful to him for dismembering Ted Cruz.

I’m no political scientist, but is it possible that we’re seeing the unraveling of a 200-year experiment?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Steve in Manhattan 01/28/2016 at 17:28

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The courts. (Shudders.) The government and the courts are so powerful it’s a wonder that a bunch of disaffected people don’t go out and buy guns and stand up against them.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > wiffleballtony 01/28/2016 at 17:31

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@Tony, I am a relatively liberal, relatively conservative guy who views the American government as too big, too powerful, and not accountable. Been to a DMV lately in any state? But with regard to the Second Amendment, either we have the Second Amendment or we don’t, and last I knew, we do, so folks need to get over that. Now, what can we do to keep people from taking up their arms and going out and massacring innocent people in schools and malls? I am at a loss.

Anthony Miller > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/28/2016 at 17:39

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I highly doubt that this is the end of American democracy. Just as I expressed doubt when I read Fukuyama’s End of History that western democracy was the last stop on the civic railroad . It makes little sense to think that some form or other of political affiliation won’t replace the current parties and I don’t believe that just because the means by which we fulfill our democratic system fall short, doesn’t mean that the system we are attempting to operate is a failure. Our approach is.

The Republican and Democratic parties have died before and they will probably die again. We might just be watching the end of one party. All it will take are a motivated group of people to displace one group or the other by clearly and intelligently articulating a new set of ideas and how they usurp or supplant the current hegemony. Donald Trump is what happens when no one has the balls combined with the support to step up.

wiffleballtony > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/28/2016 at 18:38

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The solution is to stop giving the crazy murderers the infamy they crave on the news. Honestly I believe it’s a bunch of crazy copy cats being emboldened by the infamy and destruction they see.

Chasaboo > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/28/2016 at 18:42

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People are just tired of politicians, he ain’t a politician, he’s a reality TV star.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > wiffleballtony 01/28/2016 at 22:06

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Yes, and there are Liberal and scientific commentators who say as much. There is a *thing* where people are emboldened to do a horrible thing after someone else has already done it.

I’m no psychologist, but I don’t think that an entire generation of youth being absolutely soaked in first-person shooter games helps any.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Chasaboo 01/28/2016 at 22:08

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Me, on the sick of politicians part. Totally, totally sick. Now, to be honest, I am a fan of Barack Obama and his family, but that’s on a personal level and not an opinion about how good a POTUS he is or isn’t.

Burn-Spaz1966-Burn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/29/2016 at 06:28

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I notice no mention of parties is made.